Thursday, December 28, 2017

Chris the stump can't explain all the plane parts in the Pentagon

This guy is an absolute stump

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

I. Witness Accounts of Wreckage Inside the Building
 
Witnesses described small pieces of plane debris in the building. Because of the fire, much of the debris was burned beyond recognition. Some pieces bore lime or yellow primer paint characteristic of internal aircraft parts. Larger pieces included seats, cockpit circuitry, and a landing gear. These accounts were drawn from Ron Harvey's excellent compilation and from my own research.
 
1) "Most of the wreckage was in very small pieces and most was carried out in drywall buckets. Some was large enough to identify -- including the tail number on the aircraft. I don't think there's any doubt about what it was and who owned it." (From a letter by an employee of the Pentagon)
http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/comments-general.html
 
2) "DC Matthew" wrote about his work inside the Pentagon: "After about 15 minutes shoveling up chunks of carpet and brick, I found a piece of circuit board, and a chunk of the plane. When I say a chunk of it, I mean a piece that was about 3 oz of twisted aluminum. The biggest piece I've seen so far is about the size of a refrigerator."
http://pub6.ezboard.com/foldmenonlinewhatdoyouthink.showPrevMessage?topicID=957.topic
 
3) While searching through wreckage inside the building, firefighters Carlton Burkhammer and Brian Moravitz "spotted an intact seat from the plane's cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached." Burkhammer also "spotted lime-green pieces from the interior of the plane" within the building.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp
 
4) CMSgt. John Monaccio wrote: "I was in room 1B461. The plane's inertia carried aircraft remains all the way through the building coming to rest on the outside walls of our offices. We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area."
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/pentagon-email_20020316.html
 
5) ARFF Captain Michael Defina said: "The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear."
http://www.nfpa.org/NFPAJournal/OnlineExclusive/Exclusive_11_01_01/exclusive_11.01.01.asp
 
The Navy operations area, where the cockpit was discovered, was in C-ring near the punchout hole. Many witnesses also recalled seeing plane wreckage in A-E Drive next to the punchout hole. The following three items were mentioned: a piece of the nose fuselage or nose cone, a landing gear, and a tire tread.
 
6) Navy Lt. Commander David Tarantino described the A-E Drive punchout hole: "They found an area where fire surrounded a hole in a wall that was blown out. They heard cries from people who were trapped and saw a plane tire."
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~julianr/lexisnexis/tarantino.txt
 
7) Lt. Kevin Schaeffer from the Navy Command Center recalled that "on a service road that circled the Pentagon between the B and C rings, a chunk of the 757's nose cone and front landing gear lay on the pavement a few feet away, resting against the B Ring wall."
http://www.pilotonline.com/special/911/pentagon3.html
 
8) "The nose of the plane just barely jutted out into A/E Drive (the street that runs around the inside of the building). It made a perfectly round, 5-foot hole in the wall. There was one set of landing gear (presumably from the nose) out in A/E Drive. But most of the plane's skin was in pieces not much bigger than a piece of notebook paper." (From a letter by an employee of the Pentagon)
http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/comments-general.html
 
9) "I thought it was a terrorist bomb. . . .But then I saw the landing gear. It was on the ground in the alley between the B and C rings. When I saw it there, not only did I realize an airplane had struck the Pentagon but it was clear that the plane had come through the E, D, and C buildings to get there." (Paul K. Carlton, Jr., U.S. Air Force surgeon general, quoted by Dean Murphy, "September 11: An Oral History," p. 216
 
10) Rep. Ted Tiahrt wrote: "In the C and B rings the plane had punched a hole you could a drive a truck around in, and I saw an airplane tire. It made it very real."
http://wichita.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2002/09/09/story1.html
 
11) When LTC Victor Correa went back inside the Pentagon, "he found out what caused the horrific attack he survived earlier that morning; he saw the nose cone and the landing gear of the airliner."
http://www.army.mil/usar/news/2002/09-11anniv/herotellsall.html
 
More witness accounts may be found on Ron Harvey's website: http://www.dragonslair.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/77/ffdd.html
 
We shall now see some interesting images taken inside the Pentagon on 9/12 and 9/13 -- photos of some of the objects mentioned by these witnesses.

Tuesday, December 26, 2017

Debunking a retarded poster on alt.assassination.jfk on google groups named mainframetech:

Here are a series of exchanges that mainframe and I had in regards to the 9/11 truther movement

I threw out the following video to illustrate some of idiot theories that people believe about 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ml6r7cuKe8

His response:

"This is typical 'hit' piece where the speaker give opinions and
downplays the original problem.  Here's an example of controlled
explosions (cutter charges) that cut off a column in the WTC:

http://i.imgur.com/8zymq7j.png

  Here's where they are setting cutter charges which are normal explosives
for 'controlled demolition':

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Vao03gp7oC0/Rqx9cb9RXeI/AAAAAAAAAA0/q0cNMpyNcAI/s400/MenSettingCutterCharges.jpg

   Note the angle used by the workers.

   If there are any other 'proofs' let me know.

Chris"

Well lets look at these points one by one:

http://i.imgur.com/8zymq7j.png mainframe throws out this image to illustrate "cutter charges" that were supposedly  placed on the support beams at the to effect a "controlled demolition" of WTC1 and WTC2

In fact the cut beams we see were cut during cleanup of the site

http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=42&MMN_position=68:68

Here is another video of cleanup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlkWFDiYgig&feature=channel

More evidence of cleanup

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

Take a look at the two videos at the bottom of the page.

More evidence on how the beams were cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBXZOGc-DOg

And if you don't believe me, ask some welders:

https://weldtalk.hobartwelders.com/forum/weld-talk-topic-archive/welding-processes/19923-a-metal-cutting-question?t=19417&highlight=thermite

Another good link:

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-iron-microspheres-in-9-11-wtc-dust-as-evidence-for-thermite.t2523/page-12

In conclusion: Thermite reactions are used to WELD material not cut it.